New community edition (Release 2024)

Hi,

some short questions that are maybe of general interest:

1. Let´s assume a user has following situation:

• One production instance with Innovator 12 or 11
• One test instance with Innovator 12 or 11

Installing Release 2024 (especially for testing purposes) should be possible without any problems in this configuration, right? Or is there something to consider? 

2. Is the user limitation a hard or soft restriction (=does Innovator stop working if the user limit is exceeded)?


Thanks!
Angela

Hi,

some short questions that are maybe of general interest:

1. Let´s assume a user has following situation:

• One production instance with Innovator 12 or 11
• One test instance with Innovator 12 or 11

Installing Release 2024 (especially for testing purposes) should be possible without any problems in this configuration, right? Or is there something to consider? 

2. Is the user limitation a hard or soft restriction (=does Innovator stop working if the user limit is exceeded)?


Thanks!
Angela

1. AFAIK, there shouldn't be any problems.

2. The restriction is hard. I'm tried to install R24 in the test environment and filled it with fake users. As soon as the number of users, including the admin, root and other "system" users, exceeds 50, regardless of whether they are enabled or not, whether they ever logged in or not, only admin can login to this instance.

Thanks for testing! That´s an important information!

So users can't even use the 50 users unless someone identifies themselves as an Auth Admin or Super User.
I'm surprised that not even the "logon_enabled" field is taken into account. It's like a built-in EOL function. Deleting historic users is not an option, as this would also require deleting data.

I see this release as experimental approach where they test out some ideas. They know their community isn´t Twitter - people don´t go crazy if you try something new. 

Their own homepage still contains too many quotes from the founders that describe the basic idea and their motivation with the open release. Release 2024 doesn´t match from my POV. But why should they risk their credibility for the (Quote) "...very small portion of Community Edition [...] users"? Discontinuing the open release just wouldn´t make any sense. 

I think we can found the motivation for this release in the history of 12SP9. It was a long running open release.  An excellent version for users groups below 250 users that couldn't get a full subscription, but not the best one regarding demonstrating latest Innovator features. 12SP9 was a rock solid version, but with outdated UI compared to I14 and it didn´t include new fancy features like the TOC Editor or all the other quality of life improvements. 

Release 2024 is offered clearly for marketing (show the latest and greatest you have) and testing. But it wasn´t intended as true open release. That´s why it has the inbuilt limitations regarding users and lifespan.

Year 2025 is just around the corner. I expect some finetuning in the whole concept. I am curious how they will solve this balancing act.

 John Sperling Does Aras already have a release date for the next classic open release?

For everybody wondering why I am so interested in the open release. I have a few instances that are too small for subscription but Release 2024 doesn´t fit either.

I of course contacted Aras as recommended above. Since 5 months (!) people try to find a solution, but there is some kind of gray area where they don´t have a suitable offering. Aras hasn't found a solution yet, but they definitely admire the problem. As I said before, I still expect a few changes in the overall open release concept, so I am not too worried.

But the whole situation is really funny. I am one of the most contributing members in this community - and as a token of appreciation, Aras accidentally locked me out of the software.  (at least partially, don't worry, I'm still fine).

Is anyone else affected in a similar way or is it just me that faces this unexpected edge case?